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by Clare Kane | 18:14 GMT, Thu 04 February 2010

Photo: Sonali Campion

Popular night club Thirst Lodge has received a new license allowing the performance of pole dancing and lap dancing on the premises.
A motion condemning the lap dancing plans was passed at OUSU Council on Wednesday.

The motion was put forward by Yuan Yang and Lizzie Bauer, who told Cherwell, “When clubs are granted lap dancing licenses, studies in London, Nottingham and Scotland have shown that it comes with an increase in violence, harassment, sexual assault and rape in the surrounding area. Because of this, passersby, especially women, may feel threatened walking past the area at night, and OUSU should fight to ensure that all the students it represents feel safe in Oxford.”

OUSU will now join the Women’s Campaign in urging students to refrain from visiting Thirst Lodge and holding University events at the bar while it is registered as a sex encounter establishment.

Thirst Lodge originally applied for the lap dancing license in January last year, but withdrew the application following local outcry. The second application was approved in December 2009.

The application provoked anger amongst local residents and students, especially members of St. Ebbe’s Church, which is opposite the lodge.
Church manager, Mark Abraham, said: “To have a pub right on our doorstep promoting lap- dancing would only serve to harm the Gospel at St Ebbe’s and Oxford at large.”

Residents were also angered as they felt Greene King, the brewery that owns Thirst Lodge, kept them in the dark about their intentions and did not leave them enough time to protest the decision.

Abraham said, “Once again, Greene King did not tell us of their intentions, leaving us with very little time to object.”

Elaine Beckett, a spokesperson for Greene King, commented, “We believe the operators of Thirst Lodge are experienced and as such will ensure the premises are operated in a professional manner at all times.”

In response to fears about the welfare of students and residents, Oxford City Council said, “The licence has conditions appended to it which, amongst other things, cover public safety. Licensing Officers will monitor the premises as part of our inspection programme and we will of course follow up any matters referred to us by the public.”

Some JCRs have supported OUSU’s opposition of the lap dancing license. St. Hilda’s passed an identical motion in their JCR meeting last Sunday.

St. Hilda’s JCR President Jesse Harber said, “We felt that if the statistics cited in the motion were true, then there was a clear and present danger to the women of Oxford in the granting of this license. Strip clubs use women as objects of sexual gratification, and contribute to a culture where women are regarded as such even outside of ‘sex encounters’ venues.

The danger isn’t that women will be snatched from the streets outside the club - it’s that men will leave the club believing slightly more that women are there for nothing but their own pleasure.”

However, not all students have expressed such concern. One third-year Christ Church student said, “I could not be more thrilled to hear that such refinements are now coming to Thirst Lodge. We have been starved for too long of such fine establishments in Oxford. I know where I’ll be having every one of my nights out.”

During OUSU Council, concerns were raised that it appeared to be a motion passing judgement on women working who may work at the club. Yang assured the meeting that the focus of the campaign was student safety and supporting the residential community around Thirst Lodge.

A third-year St. Hilda’s student said, “Oxford has always been a safe and fun place to go out and I think by introducing something that could be seen as derogatory then it could encourage unacceptable behaviour.”

Thirst Lodge were unavailable for comment.

Page last updated: 2010-02-04 16:15:48
Comments and Opinions:
"Price of electioneering " by Tommo
Posted: 15:05 GMT, Thu 18th March 2010
Sadly this smells like one of those standard pre-election stunts. Why on earth was the license granted in this location in first place (and outside a famously evangelical church)? Surely in anticipation for a standing ovation for the incumbent party for withdrawing the license in a few weeks time. Better if it wasn't granted in the first place.
"Is this the real world...?" by Jess
Posted: 14:00 GMT, Tue 2nd March 2010
From 1992 to 2005 the production of pornographic videos increased by 700%, totalling worldwide revenues at $100 billion. We can kid ourselves and say that sexual liberation is just like any other kind of liberation, but it's not, it's exploitation based on a consumerist desire for financial gain. JMW? Just because the 'real world' perceives something as right doesn't mean it is right.
"Reality check." by JMW
Posted: 17:54 GMT, Thu 25th February 2010
Dear Mike, Welcome to the real world. It 'wasn't that long ago' that the woman's role was confined to the home, couldn't vote and had no business outside of the institution of marriage (itself predetermined by social and econimic factors). Sexual liberation was largely a response to these restrictive attitudes - I know which period I'd rather live in. Let Thirst Lodge do as it pleases.
"Ethical consumerism...?" by Mike
Posted: 13:25 GMT, Fri 19th February 2010
Can we really assume that opening a lap dancing club won't affect the ethical side of Oxford's society? Society reloves (bluntly) arounds sex; condoms, porn, lust, lap-dancing. It wasn't that long ago that sex was largely contained to marriage but it's been pushed farther and farther to the extent that you only need type sex into google to generate 511,000,000 responses... is this really right??
"Thirst Lounge" by Tommo
Posted: 19:48 GMT, Tue 9th February 2010
Very poor location for such establishment however, St Ebbs is right next to Council offices (licensing department) and the town hall is short stroll down Pembroke street away and loads of dodgy types there constantly during the DAY. I think we know why the plan was passed.
"Exploitation?" by Browndog
Posted: 13:30 GMT, Tue 9th February 2010
Not too sure about the exploitation tag; some 'exotic' dancers choose to follow this work because of the financial reward rather than having to, or being forced to work in this way. Personally I don't agree that it is appropriate and is demeaning both to women and the men who frequent such places. Tacky and sleazy and likely to attract far too many politicians to Oxford.
"Think of the children!" by AaronB
Posted: 20:49 GMT, Mon 8th February 2010
How tedious. The only response of the God Botherers is to wail about supposed effects on children. It is about time these people started to mind their own business and allow other people to have some fun outside of their puritan demands.
"Cover your eyes, kids..." by BetaMale
Posted: 18:09 GMT, Mon 8th February 2010
From the Rector of St Ebbes: "In our view, putting it next to a church with a lot of children's activities is [...] inappropriate." If their children's events are timed such as they're overlapping with club nights, they have a bigger problem at hand... What's more, TL aren't licensed to advertise these events outside their premises, so children would have to wander inside to get any exposure!
"Condescending" by JG
Posted: 14:55 GMT, Mon 8th February 2010
Whilst I do not deny that this could make people - not just women - feel less comfortable with the venue, to suggest seriously that men might commit rape as a result is condescending and frankly ludicrous. We can disagree with this on ethical grounds without having to paint an animalistic and insulting picture of men at the same time.
"dumbed down Oxford" by Kate
Posted: 20:21 GMT, Sun 7th February 2010
This just makes Oxford a far less fun and comfortable atmosphere for women and men. Apart from the exploitation of the dancers themselves, strip-clubs teach both men and women that macho fun is all about objectifying and leering at women. Uncomfortable socially for Oxford men with better taste, and downright unsafe for women.
 
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